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REPLY to an extract from the Religious Herald, in which Mr. Sands, its editor, charges the Old School Baptists of “Concord Association” with popery, for dissolving their connection with the New School. Mr. Sands says:

“But we suppose Mr. Beebe will find some authority for this act in the Old Testament, at least as valid as that of the Puritans for dispossessing the poor Indians,” &c.

REPLY: WHY, yes, Mr. Sands, we can find authority for the dissolution of all unscriptural associations, especially such as are made up of heterogeneous materials, like the one you have referred to, and where their constituents “have refused the waters of Shiloah that go softly, and rejoice in Rezin and Remaliah’s son.” You will do yourself the favor, sir, to read the decree published by Isaiah, “Associate yourselves, O ye people, and ye shall be broken in pieces; and give ear, all ye of far countries: gird yourselves, and ye shall be broken in pieces; gird yourselves, and ye shall be broken in pieces. Take counsel together, and it shall come to nought; speak the word, and it shall not stand: for God is with us. For the Lord spake thus to me with a strong hand, and instructed me that I should not walk in the way of this people, saying, Say ye not, A confederacy, to all them to whom this people shall say, A confederacy; neither fear ye their fear, nor be afraid.” - Isaiah viii. 9 - 12. Read also Nehemiah: “On that day they read in the book of Moses in the audience of the people; and therein was found written that the Ammonite and the Moabite should not come into the congregation of God forever; because they met not the children of Israel with bread and with water, but hired Balaam against them, that he should curse them; howbeit, our God turned the curse into a blessing. Now it came to pass, when they had heard the law, that they separated from Israel all the mixed multitude. In those days also saw I Jews that had married wives of Ashdod, of Ammon, and of Moab; and their children spake half in the speech of Ashdod, and could not speak in the Jew’s language, but according to the language of each people. And I contended with them, and cursed them, and smote certain of them, and plucked off their hair, and made them swear by God, saying, Ye shall not give your daughters unto their sons, nor take their daughters unto your sons, or for yourselves.” - Neh. xiii. 1-3, 23-25.

Having succeeded in giving Mr. Sands the kind of Old Testament authority which he seemed in want of, will Mr. Sands in return give us as much New Testament authority for forcing a nominal union of the Old with the New School Baptists, and for calling such a mixed, heterogeneous multitude a Concord Association?

For the Old School Baptists to dissolve their connection with such as have embraced the new inventions of the day, and ultimately withdraw their christian fellowship from such as they cannot reclaim, is, in Mr. Sand’s opinion, popery; but we suppose, to force the Old School brethren and churches to follow the new into their new schemes of fraud and speculation, to buy and sell religious titles, memberships, indulgences, &c., would give that fox no unpleasant misgivings. Would it, Mr. Sands?

June 1, 1838.

Elder Gilbert Beebe
Editorials Volume 1
Pages 440 – 441